scienderp: (Sciencing! Or lost.)
Skyfire ([personal profile] scienderp) wrote in [community profile] re_alignment2012-08-21 05:13 pm

Video [Origin in Alpha Trion's temple]

[The video feed is turned on, focusing on the face of a large, white mech with a very distinctly... worried and concerned expression. Guys, guys he was just under several feet of ice guys how did this happen what is this even-]

I have learned a few things from the ah... acolytes within this temple, but I have more questions for those who have been brought here.

My name is Skyfire, is there anyone here who would recognize that name?

[He's not going to mention any names specifically, but there's a definite hopeful lift to his tone.]

I'm looking for any other Autobots there may be out there as well... Even if I do not know you now, I would still like to learn more about you. It isn't necessary of course, but... it seems only right that we all get to know each other.
angleofscience: (talking - science is relevant)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-21 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
He was being attacked by... a very large spider I think, but got help in time. He seemed fine when I talked to him, which wasn't very long ago at all.

[He tilts his helm, wondering now in earnest why they don't actually share a designation, even if there apparently is, going by the conversation with Mirage, a "Jetfire" in another dimension.]

Jetfire. It seems... somehow, that despite seeimingly being alternates, we do not share a designation. Which, previously others who have had alternates appearing here have done, curiously enough.

[Frowning, Jetfire rubbed his chin.]

And with the reasonably wide variety in designs across four discrete dimensions of these alternates, I don't think the aesthetic design could explain why we aren't sharing a name...
angleofscience: (hmm - analyzing data)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-21 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I talked to him after it was dispatched, so reasonably so, yes.

[Not 100%, he isn't going to say, because you never know absolutely. But reasonably sure, yes.]

Indeed. I'm doubtful the close similarity would have any bearing on it, so the reason might be more immaterial than that... Which also will make it harder to find unfortunately.
angleofscience: (confused - something isn't right here)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-22 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Certainly. If he wasn't, I'd have gone and done something myself, but luckily it wasn't needed.

[Jetfire nods, about to probably say something, but the mention of ice distracts him, and he frowns.]

Ice..? Are you all right? I know that it can be a quite... er, annoying substance. I'm not sure we have anything like CR chambers around, but if there's ice beneath your armour you might want a medic to have a look.

[The concern, obviously, is warranted; ice underneath plating and around and inside sensitive workings are a serious thing. The slightly twitching wings barely visible behind Jetfire's shoulders, and them slowly drooping downwards is perhaps... less warranted.]
angleofscience: (agnostic scientist - disregard no angles)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-22 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
[He nods, accepting that; usually, every individual mech was the best judge of whether they'd be fine or not, and when. Though, of course, a medic would override such a self-made prognosis.]

Good. At least the immediate area isn't cold enough that the thawing ice should freeze again... I'm frankly glad we do not have water in the same amount as on Earth... Quite a few problems would come from that.

[That makes Jetfire frown again.]

I hope you don't, it's very... uncomfortable. And can inflict quite a bit of damage.

[As he's noticed himself, since he did get a nicely compiled list of what the CR chamber had repaired while also thawing him.]
angleofscience: (Autobrand - no matter what (you say))

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-23 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, that's good. You should be able to find energon easily enough to afford to temporary raise your core temperature, if you're otherwise low on energy. And water evaporates. I'm sure, as long as you yourself don't mind, there won't be an issue.

[A nod, and while it technically doesn't impact him, it does feel somewhat more... close than otherwise, considering this is, as far as can be reasonably assumed, an alternate of himself.]

You weren't frozen for long, then?

[Really, he should stop inquiring, but there's a sort of... itch, to know.]
angleofscience: (looking off - guarded)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-23 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
As you want. We do, at least, not have any shortage of energon...

[Jetfire trails off, staring quietly. A second time? He'd been frozen twice? The memory of the.... glitch, the dream, whatever it had been, even if Jetfire doesn't trust it comes back, that sense of being cold and unable to move ghosting along.]

You've been frozen twice? [It's subdued, and Jetfire's frowning.] It has happned once for me. Not an experience I'd care to repeat.
angleofscience: (stunned - not as planned)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-23 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It was the same for me, when I left, though that seems to have changed presently.

[Jetfire's expression tightens and then his optics widen slightly again at the mention of the number of years.]

... Ten million Earth years? Even with the difference in how we count years that... is a long time. I, ah. Was "only" trapped for... hmmm... perhaps around 31 vorns.

[Grim, indeed. And for some reason Jetfire remembers Starscream shooting him with the null-ray in that hidden pit pops up, and he shakes his helm.]

Unfortunate. At least it was merely a few days, though even that would be too long.
angleofscience: (dubious scientist - er really?)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-23 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed. Though, while I don't know how the war came around in your reality... in mine it had nothing to do with energon shortage, even when it should have, perhaps.

[And then Jetfire's expression grows dark and he nods, crossing his arms as his wings, once again, dip downwards.]

Indeed it is. I'm relived you had that, since being aware even a short length of time and unable to get out of it would be unpleasant.

[He speaks evenly and shakes his helm slightly, managing to keep any implication in tone or - hopefully - word choice that this is what happened. He had only very reluctantly and very conciously went into first periods of recharge and then stasis lock.]

Ah, yes. It's quite... spectacular to be able to fly over Cybertron again, even if this is not our Cybertron. [This is a much more pleasant subject, really. Jetfire smiles slightly.]

Strangely enough, I haven't been able to get into complete space flight, which I am capable of, and which you seem to share as well? I would surmise it has something to do with the Lambda affecting the space-time around this Cybertron itself...
angleofscience: (flying! - in space)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-24 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[Jetfire nods, tilting his helm as he considers this rather huge difference.]

Ah, that's... interesting. When I left on my mission, the war had already been going for... millions of vorns, and I was involved from the beginning.

[Not just on the same side as he's now.]

There might be, but this Cybertron is very young. The only actual full buildings are, presumably, here at the Haven, which our... er, hosts have built. And yes, there seems to be something inhibiting true space flight presently. I've achieved orbit, but that's as far as I came.

[Jetfire shifts on his feet, crossing his arms while making sure the arm with the screen he's broadcasting from is on top.]

A similar force to gravity, I'd say, but pushing from both above and beyond. Like being unable to leave the gravity-well, despite that we should have the capacity for this... My engines momentarily failed when I attempted to press the issue, so I had to satisfy myself with achieveing orbit.
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angleofscience: (contemplating the situation - patterns)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-24 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
An angle I wasn't considering, truly... That would, indeed, be interesting, though it would be necessary to know the time-frame here as well as when you visited the planets, and then take any difference of said time into account for the possible comparison to be the most useful...

[Jetfire's mumbling throughfully; it's not a critisism, merely an interested addendum to Skyfire's wish to explore said differences.]
angleofscience: (talking - science is relevant)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-25 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed. And, perhaps, Cybertron in particular, since even the very few planets that are made up of a majority of various metals do not resemble Cybertron... even as it is in this stage.

[He waves a hand around briefly, meaning to indicae´te not just their immediate surroundings, but the wider planet itself.]

Whether or not we give any weight to any special origin for Cybertron, our planet does seem to be quite singular in its existence as there really are no exact analogues to compare even a possible natural development and formation.

[And, if you gave even the vaguest of attention to such imprecise and foolish lines as "and from Primus, around it, Cybertron rose, to give a place of rest as well as origin" from the Covenant of Primus... that might imply a very non-natural origin. But of that, there really was no proof.]
angleofscience: (science in space! - protection necessary)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-08-26 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
If anything, they would certainly... or at least hopefully, be aware of either the exact time this Cybertron's been around, or, as you say, could given an educated guess.

[Pausing, Jetfire frowns thoughtfully.]

After that, access to space, or equipment to calculate the age of this universe would be required to establish how much time has passed in this reality, compared with any other given one...

[The idea is rather facinating, really.]

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