re_alignment | [video][private to the law committee]

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[video][private to the law committee]

All right, it seems as though this group has been slacking a bit in our responsibilities. We need to do something about that since I believe we have representations for all of our glorious hosts. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

With that said, I have another matter I'd like to bring to the table: the mech Dead End.

As you probably are aware, he has made public his cannibalistic nature. When I confronted him, he admitted to being a threat, but refuses to do anything about it. I don't know about you, but after the allegations of him possibly sneaking into rooms, I don't think this is something we should take lightly.

I'm not suggesting termination --

[As that would not work anyway.]

Or anything related, but we do need precautions before something escalates. If not from Dead End himself, from another going after him.

I propose something along the lines of an internal tracker, a limited boundary he must stay in, and his own personal "baby sitter" so to speak. If he voluntarily complies and doesn't try to eat anyone, this could be eventually lifted. If he violates the rules, then harsher measures can be taken.

I welcome any other suggestions, but I still feel we must act before someone is hurt. I assume being eaten alive isn't a pleasant experience.

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We do need to organize ourselves and start planning some basic laws..

[ Saber goes quiet to think about the Dead End situation. She had heard about it, however.. ]

The lad has not killed anyone yet, and seems to have a few trustworthy friends who are watching over him. Maybe they should be told outright they are expected to .. keep him in check, per se? I see no reason to have Dead End feel imprisoned or punished as he has not harmed anyone. We do need to keep an eye on him, however.

[ The knight looks back up at the video directly. ]

Does this Dead End situation not also concern the Police Force?

He's supposedly already been caught sneaking up on people while they were resting -- which is a violation of their safety. I am not proposing a complete imprisonment anyway.

Besides, would you rather we wait until he kills someone since he has outed himself as wanting to?

As far as the police force goes, we have no laws in place for them to carry out -- hence this discussion. The police force can carry out whatever actions we decide to take.

I don't.. know if I feel he actually wants to kill anyone. It sounds as if he's been surviving by.. feeding from friends. It's a tricky situation. If we exercise force unnecessarily others may start to feel we're being hostile needlessly.

[ A gentle sigh. ]

Yes, we need to establish basic laws. "Watch over Dead End" is not a basic law, but "ensuring the general safety of all" would be. I would like to keep a watch over Dead End, and you also mention not wanting to imprison him. How would you handle it?

Huh. I've been worried about this same issue, myself.

[Dead End--menace to all therapists, while also being attractive to them.]

I think we probably need to make some laws before we can arrest him for them, though...

Wait.

Hold on.

Who put you on the law committee?

[Last he checked, Starscream spent more time impersonating politicians than he did...being one.]

Does the who really matter? Right now I'd rather focus on getting everyone on the same page in this situation.

Even if it's not specifically about Dead End, I feel we need something in place so nothing escalates.

I imagine there would be an uproar if anyone felt threatened by him and lashed out. I'd rather this not all end messily.

If my original statement was unclear - I meant he should be restricted a a perimeter, such as his first forged's commanding area, until we can safely assert that he will not attempt to break into anyone's personal quarters again.

Honestly, I agree. Especially if he admitted it himself.

Of course, if it is possible we should seek to cure whatever...affliction plagues him, but in the meantime the temptation should not be overlooked.

And he likely has been tempted at the very least since arriving here, given those intrusions some time back.

[The upset minibot that camped out on his couch was proof enough of that.]

Given the nature of his public confession, perhaps he will voluntarily comply with at least some of these suggestions. If we could be so fortunate.

I doubt he will, he seemed reluctant to do anything about it when I spoke with him. Of course, curing him would be ultimately easier in the end.

Do we know the cause of his power addiction? Even among some of the most brutal of Decepticons, that isn't exactly normal.

True, but we can at least try. It could certainly earn him some points with those that are wary.

And honestly, I don't have the slightest idea. I can't say I've ever heard of anything like this before. Perhaps a medic might have more insight.

I wonder if something could be constructed to emit a similar energy to a power core. Of course, it'd help to know exactly what he's getting out of his vampire ways.

Thank you for the clarification.

[ A curt nod. ]

Your idea has my approval.

I agree.

Dead End's getting to be a problem and I think the only solution is imprisonment.

Is there anything that can hold a Cybertonian?

[ Wing feels a little remiss because he knows he's been neglecting this. No matter how hard he tries, there seems to something that slops through the cracks. ]

It's definitely something that needs to be addressed, and proactively not retroactively.

But I hesitate to impost restrictions on a mech who hasn't actually broken any laws. He should be treated fairly as the rest of us. If we can find evidence of him harming someone here, and convict him of a crime, then we can met out a punishment that's appropriate.

But limiting his quality of life simply due to his biological needs is far from fair or just. If we start acting against a mech's threat potential then 70% of the mechs here would be end up with restrictions.

[ He frowns, because he also wants to keep people safe. ]

I'd like to exhaust all options for solving or mediating his needs before we limit his already poor quality of life.

It can be rather easy -- depending on the Cybertronian. Standard Cybertronian grade metal and various types of energy bars would do the trick for someone like Dead End.

If it can be done, we better do it fast. If that confession showed anything he's getting progressively unstable.

70% of the mechs here haven't broken into anyone's living quarters. I'd go talk to Cliffjumper before sympathizing too much with Dead End's situation.

Besides, I have spoken with Dead End, he holds no regard for the safety of others, and while this is normal Decepticon behavior ... normal Decepticons don't consume others.

And I don't know why you are all acting like this is some sort of extreme punishment. I would just like to keep track of him and limit his movements to the quadrant of his firstforged -- until we can assess his condition and be assured he won't go off and eat anyone.

The problem would lie in getting everyone else to agree with that. I would, at least, like to keep track of his movements before he does anything. Surely that can't be too much to ask?

For now it's all we can do before the committee can agree on anything.

Agreed. We should also rally all those with Cybertronian medical knowledge together and see if Dead End's ... situation is a condition that can be treated physically or if this is a purely psychological thing.

From the sounds of it, it seems to be pretty psychological. But getting help wouldn't hurt.

I don't doubt that is correct, but the ones defending him are likely to be a hindrance unless we investigate all possibilities.

Well, yeah the who matters. You are Starscream.

I think 'ulterior motives' sort of go along with the name.

[They did last he checked, anyhow.]

But okay.

I'll bite.

We've got a police force I noticed, so lets ask them to get some evidence against him. After they do that...

Well, what happens after that?

That's kind of up to us, isn't it.

A possible option. But I suppose we will have to get the details directly from the mech in question before we can actually attempt anything.

If I wanted you dead, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[But there's always later.]

Optimus Prime suggested finding a cure. I'd say we at least have the police force obtain him and get all the medics to check him out. The more we know, the better prepared we are to decide on what to do.

I nominate you for that task.

Would you want me dead, if we're the same rank?

[Though that may be exactly what your point is, he realizes.]

I...agree?

[He has to add the question mark, because its so weird to say on its own.]

So lets authorize that. I vote we make it against the law for breaking and entering too, and probably also against unauthorized power-core sampling. That ought to take care of the rest.

Wasn't there also some trial we were supposed to do?

[A sigh.]

If I must. But I have interacted with someone fitting his description before. If it is the same mech, I highly doubt the suggestion would be very appreciated, coming from me.

[Starscream smirks, but doesn't answer the first question.]

Hopefully that will be enough to deter Dead End, but ...

Even as a Decepticon, I will still say: Dead End is a Decepticon and there is a high chance he will not listen.

As far as a trial goes, I believe so, but I'm not sure of the details.

Well, it's not like the suggestion will even be listened to, coming from me.

[He is watching you, Screamer. He is.]

So then we'll have to think up some juicy punishments, huh? Something that would deter even Decepticons.

But.

Okay. Separate issue. You know what I'm thinking?

I'm thinking there are too many of us.

I mean, too many of us all working nebulously on one thing. Lets appoint everyone to handle a specific task, come up with a solution, and then we all approve it.

So, like, we get someone to handle trials. And someone to handle laws. And someone to handle punishments. That sort of thing.

I'm surprised, I'm inclined to agree with you.

Splitting us up into sub-groups could make things go smoother and quicker.

...

In theory, at least.

I'm not sympathizing Starscream, there needs to be due process. It's critical in establishing a trustworthy power structure that the people will follow and abide by. Without it there's no consistency or fairness. The Police Force is responsible for protecting people from harm. The Law Committee is responsible for making sure they can do that while protecting people's rights as well, including freedom and quality of life.

[ Seriously Starscream, don't make Wing quote the Autobot motto because that would embarrassing for both of us. ]

I'm not saying your idea is a bad one, but we just can't go out and do it, we need a process and it has to be followed. If there's evidence of a crime like assault, then have the police take him into custody. Then we determine his guilt or innocence and what fair repercussions should be.

Yeah. Especially since we all have our side-projects in just trying to stay alive here.

It'll help.

[Starscream, maybe you're not so bad.]

Hn. He previously expressed a great deal of doubt in an Autobot's ability to remain unbiased.

A Decepticon would likely be best. Or a united front from both, though that could make any mech feel backed into a corner.

We have Cliffjumper's account and Dead End's own confession of 'I eat people.'

I think that just might count as evidence.

And everyone keeps bumping into each other just trying to figure out what to do.

[Don't tell him that, Skids.]

Which one of the 'wants-to-be-gods' is over him?

Hmm. I am uncertain. I never got a look at his glyph.

Some help you are.

...Unfortunately, I don't always have all of the answers, Starscream.

[Dryly.]

I'm surprised you don't at least think you do.

[Brow raise.]

I hardly go around declaring my infallibility or any sort of similar nonsense.

But your followers do.

...I haven't seen any examples of that.

[Thankfully. How awkward.]

But if they have been, I certainly haven't endorsed it.

Oh just admit it. You like the praise.

...Not really.

[The amount of faith and affection his 'bots sometimes have for him can be...awkward.

Touching. But awkward. Like right now.]

I would.

...I am not surprised in the least, honestly.

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